Kimbo Slice?

Internet star. Kimbo Slice = Primo Carnera. I’ve noticed that the few MMA fights I’ve seen have been decided by standard boxing techniques. Kimbo has the hype, but I think it’s undeserverd. He doesn’t have either the Sweet or the Science that Manny Pacquiao (or others) have in boxing.


3 Responses to “Kimbo Slice?”

  1. pelee Says:

    I’m not one for boxing, but Manny’s serratus muscles in the photos you put up make me think of that movie Bigger, Stronger, Faster. It’s a documentary about steroids. There is plenty in it that’s interesting (and plenty in it that is genre cliche) but related to the physiques of these guys is a part where someone shows action figures from different eras. Original GI Joe was a doughy pipsqueak in comparison to today’s muscular dolls and the comparison is remarkably the same with boxers of bygone eras versus the current batch.

  2. aljamieson Says:

    I know. But that’s more a function of modern conditioning and athletic training techniques in action. Sports Science, I guess, is what they call it in College. That’s true in all sports these days. Golfers have discovered the benefit of strength training, for instance, and would cut a nicer physique as a result than, say, Tom Watson in his heydey.

    There’s a great book called “The Arc of Boxing” which draws those same comparisons, though specific to boxers. The contention is that today’s training techniques breed a lesser quality of boxer because more training is involved to remain competitive with similarlly trained fighters, thus leading to fewer actual fights. The problem being that they train extensively, where fighters in the past fought extensively. The ring experience and knowledge thus gained is considered far more valuable and determinative than the amount of training one can put it. As a result, the great fighters of the past rose to the top by beating as many people as were challenging, sometimes a dozen or more a year, and only superior athletes could achieve that level, tough ultimately not much to look at.

    However, I don’t agree with that assessment, even though the book makes it compelling.

    As far as the dolls are concerned, I think that has a lot to do with the marketing of body image, and that there’s a certain male physique which is considered to be ideal.

  3. pelee Says:

    Re: First paragraph–definitely. It’s just remarkable to me that there is such a difference and that goes for all athletes.

    Re: Last paragraph–definitely. It’s why there’s a supplement industry selling all those protein powders and shakes and capsules. And it’s also why there’s a demand for anabolic steroids amongst a population that doesn’t necessarily intend to engage in high level athletic competition. (I’m not anti-steroid, BTW.)

    As for the middle paragraphs, I couldn’t say specifically about the boxing world. I do think, though, that it is interesting to know how strategies change for various athletes as training methods change. I got tidbits of it this year when the old-lady swimmer went to the Olympics…she has some kind of stretching regimen that she credits for improving her performance.

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